Saturday, October 10, 2009
Names Are Important Things...

So. A while back I mentioned I was going to be giving people the opportunity to get their name into book two.

Since then I've been putting a lot of thought into how I was going to accomplish this.

I considered an auction. I've seen that done a couple different ways by a couple different authors. It would be fairly simple, and it would be a good way to raise money for the upcoming Heifer fundraiser…. (Which is going to be even more awesome this year, by the way.)

However, something about the thought of an auction rubbed me the wrong way. It would be relatively easy to handle, and I'm all about raising money for Heifer. But still, it seemed odd for me to set up a system where the person with the most money automatically wins. That irks my egalitarian nature.

Plus, I had WAY too many imagined conversations along these lines:

Me: [on the phone] Congratulations! You won the auction!

Winner: Yay! I want to put my D&D character's name into the book!

Me: What's his name?

Winner: Studd Beefcake.

Me:

Winner: He's awesome. He's a dual class fighter/ranger. That means so long as he's only wearing leather armor…

Me: I don't think the name Studd Beefcake will fit smoothly into the world I've created.

Winner: How about my other character? Grignir Theqjirn'ateth.

Me: I beg your pardon? I think there was some static on the line…

Winner: Grignir Theqjirn'ateth. He's a dwarven monk.

Me: Do you…

Winner: Stunning Fist!

Me: Yes. Stunning Fist. Do you have any ideas for names that aren't your D&D characters?

Winner: Well… We could use my little boy's name…

Me: That sounds great. What is it?

Winner: Drizzt.

Me: I think there are copyright issues involved…

Winner: Drizzt Do'Urden RULES! Wooo!

Me: I don't think we can use Drizzt, either.

Winner: [Angrily] Why do you keep shooting down my awesome ideas? I paid, like, 4,000 dollars for this!

That's how all these conversations end in my mind. With the auction winner feeling that because they've shelled out a bunch of money, they have the right to stick whatever they want in my book.

But that's just not going to be the case. What will happen is you'll win a chance to propose a name for book two. If the name you're proposing sounds great to me, then huzzah. If not, the two of us will talk it over.

For example, maybe you want to get your girlfriend's name into the book because you're hoping it will get you that threeway you've always wanted. But her name is "Veronica" and that doesn't quite feel right for my world.

So we start talking it over. Maybe we can use her middle name instead. Maybe we use her nickname and I tweak the character's description a little bit so that it more closely resembles her. (Though I'll probably do this a little bit anyway.)

Maybe I put a little twist on the name. "Veronia" would be fine for the book.

Or maybe you decide you'd rather use your own name after all. And it turns out I'm fine with that because your name is Ferrel and that's exactly the sort of name that would fit on a Vintish Courtier, and I happen to be tweaking that section right now…

What I'm getting at here is that we'll negotiate until we're both happy with the addition to the book.

Anyway, the point is that I'll be running this like a lottery. That way we can raise money for Heifer, AND everyone has a chance to win.

In fact, everyone will have *several* chances to win.

In fact, even people that can't afford to buy their way in will have a chance to win.

Interested? Of course you are.

Tune in on Monday for the details.


Tantalizingly Yours,

pat

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65 Comments:

Blogger Pat said...

First!

October 10, 2009 11:15 PM  
Blogger Pat said...

See? It looks just as dumb when I do it...

October 10, 2009 11:16 PM  
Blogger Brandy said...

Damn! Here I was looking forward to looking dumb...

but I will wait, with bated breath even! Until Monday.

How does bated breath smell? Not like baited breath, I hope!

October 10, 2009 11:20 PM  
Blogger Frank said...

Second!

October 10, 2009 11:21 PM  
Blogger K. L. Howard said...

Sweet. Lottery! And I love how you ended it "tantalizing yours". Awesome.
And because I'm that dumb (and never first):
Official First!!

October 10, 2009 11:21 PM  
Blogger K. L. Howard said...

dammit!

October 10, 2009 11:21 PM  
Blogger Frank said...

Darn, looks like I was third. If you count Pat's two posts separately, I'm fourth. Oh well, I am still very excited!

October 10, 2009 11:22 PM  
Anonymous AJ said...

Gruntin Thews? Oyld Ahnkls?

Frankly, I don't know why you're even bothering to have a contest... ;)

October 10, 2009 11:30 PM  
Blogger An Albino Druid said...

No! I was so close!
Haha...
Oh well, I cannot wait for the details, Pat!

I will be thinking of the names I could propose...

October 10, 2009 11:31 PM  
Anonymous MOQS said...

Moalied Badaokko....there you go...everyone else im sorry...hes picking my name

October 10, 2009 11:39 PM  
Blogger Vinny K said...

Pat, you sure do know how to adequately pique ones curiosity. I greatly look forward to what you have in store for those of us (that is to say, all of us) that wish to have the opportunity of a life-time and pick the name that shall be in your next book. Well, that is all, until Monday. May fortune smile upon you.

~Vinny~

October 10, 2009 11:48 PM  
Blogger Rex said...

I love your pragmatic and fair approach to this, when you first mentioned the whole auction idea i was all exited...

until i remembered that I'm poor.

this whole post really show cases why it is that i name you as my favorite writer. not only do i love your writing, i like the way you think.

Thanks for this opportunity.

October 11, 2009 12:21 AM  
Blogger Charles said...

So my dreams of Pious Priest the Right Honorable Joe Kickass go down in flames?

You've changed man. You've changed.

October 11, 2009 12:30 AM  
Blogger Stefan said...

Robyn with a Y and Stignei with a Stignei

October 11, 2009 12:33 AM  
Blogger Devin said...

Well, Now I feel obligated to enter, because I'm already in the book. (My name's Devin)

October 11, 2009 12:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about Amalthea, from peter Beagle's The Last Unicorn? An homage, if you will. Plus it's a beautiful name. I am really looking forward to book two, Pat.

October 11, 2009 12:46 AM  
Anonymous geoff foden said...

How about gemmell (in honour of the author david gemmell who dies in 2006).

Our first child is due in december, we like the name Kian. that would sound great I think in the book...

October 11, 2009 3:27 AM  
Anonymous Zack Truel said...

Awesome! I can't wait to hear what we have to do. I think it would be awesome to be able to come up with a name for a character in book 2. I would brag to all of my friends about it if I won! :)

October 11, 2009 3:30 AM  
Anonymous Sarah said...

Awesome! Now I'm even more excited for tomorrow! Can't wait to hear what we have to do to join. I hope overseas readers can join, too ;)

October 11, 2009 3:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmmm,

So does that mean that "Gaspasser" would have no chance?

October 11, 2009 4:29 AM  
Blogger Captain Joe said...

Hmm, well, Joe is not a very fanciful name. It needs a touch of fantasy about it... let's see... Joepleus!

Bingo.

Pat, my good man, be prepared for an all out bidding war!

October 11, 2009 4:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really hope I can join too:)
And Im totally understanding there isnt a release date yet. Good work needs time-> Quality before Quantity:)


Love
Katt

October 11, 2009 8:03 AM  
Anonymous Alice O. Beltran said...

Yay! I'm so excited!

October 11, 2009 8:44 AM  
Blogger RedObserver said...

Egalitarian nature, Yay!

I think that this is fair, maybe not too much for the people that contribute to Heifer but to the book. Can't have anything ruining the feel of the book :) now can we?

Anyway, there's no need for me to really want this......you already have one of Kvothe's name as "Reshi".....that's more than my wildest name-dreams and the spelling is the same too.


"Studd Beefcake"

Hhaha.

October 11, 2009 9:14 AM  
Anonymous Ruthie said...

Amarys
Zedria
Imry
Lyranumai
Sirisal

There's some. Hope it gives a bit of inspiration :)

October 11, 2009 9:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Xaraiya
Riiya
Morent
Byrin-Tal
Eedici
Lestin
Irrultam

October 11, 2009 10:10 AM  
Blogger Warbeard said...

I love you Pat.

October 11, 2009 11:25 AM  
Blogger Miche said...

Off topic but you've got me curious Patrick. What do you think of Dragonlance and the Forgotten Realms?

The first series I ever read was Chronicles in grade 5. Then I continued to read both of them until I was 15 or 16. Haven't read a single thing in them in the last 15 years though...just grew out of it and moved on I guess. But I'll always look back fondly on Tanis and Kelemvor and the rest.

October 11, 2009 12:25 PM  
Blogger Stuart said...

This is very unfair. I'm a very wealthy man. I demand the right to spend copious amount of cash to secure my choice of names. Harumph!

October 11, 2009 1:38 PM  
Anonymous ricardo munoz said...

how Ricardo Xavier Munoz in honor of me

October 11, 2009 1:50 PM  
Blogger ricardo said...

meant how about Ricardo Xavier Munoz in honor of me

October 11, 2009 1:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as people are proposing ideas....

Aeryon
Nysteris
Kailis

October 11, 2009 2:36 PM  
Blogger Rhys R. said...

Winner: Well… We could use my little boy's name…

Me: That sounds great. What is it?

Winner: Drizzt.

If ever you tire of writing the greatest books known to man (and likely martians) please take up comedy...I nearly had an aneurysm laughing at this. Oh and since this is my first time posting...you are my all time favorite author, hands down.

October 11, 2009 6:02 PM  
Anonymous Moteth said...

Tantalizingly yours...

Always!

October 11, 2009 6:40 PM  
Blogger Nathan said...

OH. MY. GOD. ahem, now that that's out of the way, let's just say I am excited. Now hopefully I'll be lucky too...

October 11, 2009 7:01 PM  
Blogger Roswitha said...

Love the egalitarian plan! No wonder we all think you are such a stand-up kind of guy.

Yay, Pat! And Yay, Heifer International! And Yay for lotteries and book two and Oot and Sarah and just bygolly isn't the world just great sometimes?

Seriously, you rock.

October 11, 2009 8:54 PM  
Anonymous sully said...

I'm saddened by this. Seeing as you are still having contests for the 2nd book, means it is still not ready to be released. I Don't want to be a "fanboy" But the anticipation is driving me bats. I would love to know a release date. I've read book one 3 times, in anticipation for the 2nd. By now i thought we would be talking about the 3rd. book.

October 11, 2009 11:02 PM  
Blogger Atreus said...

I was pleasantly surprised reading through The Name of the Wind the first time to find a character with the same name as my own. It came from left field when I realized a certain Blacksmith's apprentice who was handy with a steel bar shared a name with me - so I got a preemptive treat! So no need for me to try to get a name in the second one.

I really appreciate the fact that you do have such an interaction with your fan base, though, and are willing to include them in your book in something as important as names. Your originality with names and consistent use of unique languages and cultures throughout is one of the things that really drew me to your book, so don't get too carried away!

So, great job with the first book, best of luck on the second book, and I give you my respect for both being close to your fanbase and doing a noble humanitarian endeavor.

Keep it up - looking forward to seeing how things turn out!

October 11, 2009 11:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last! :)

October 11, 2009 11:54 PM  
Anonymous Zack Truel said...

*whistles idly and then perks up* Hey, its Monday! No new blog post? I want to know what I have to do! ;)

October 12, 2009 12:39 AM  
Anonymous Jackson S said...

The thought of having my name in the book, even if it is only a semblance of my name is make my head spin.

By the way I have read your book 5 times now, and I see it from a different perspective each time. One of the riddles of my life is that your book is the only one I can continuously read.

October 12, 2009 3:38 AM  
Anonymous Memphis said...

I stand firmly behind:

Olgruin Wiltvlyt
Lordé de Mourion
or
Borys Linha
Ordoca Mirehinin
Larsis Carthenin

Or is that to international?

Curious greetings

October 12, 2009 4:30 AM  
Blogger Jamie said...

in the middle of The Name of the Wind now and im loving it. Cool idea for the fan interaction too.

October 12, 2009 7:04 AM  
Blogger Randy said...

Wait a minute, I thought the draft was complete and submitted for the new Day 2 book already? Recall the May 11, 2009 blog post about the manuscript? I'm confused....

October 12, 2009 8:52 AM  
Blogger Chundar said...

So...you like to party?...'cause I could party.

Whoooohoooooooo! Let's send some live stock around the world again! What a most excellent charity!

Now, down to business. I've got this idea, see. It involves me getting a character name into your forthcoming novel. I'll allow you to feature Chundar Bwarda (a.k.a. the Barbarian of Seville) in book 2, and in return, I'll send some livestock around the world to the downtrodden and destitute, who dearly need our help.

Wha'dja think?

October 12, 2009 1:15 PM  
Blogger Heather said...

Hi,
Iv'e Just read your blog and your idea sounds awesome!
Can't wait for details.

October 12, 2009 1:16 PM  
Anonymous Mark S. said...

I really don't understand the confusion over why we don't have a release date yet. He submitted the draft of book 2 in May. The EDITOR, who, you know, edits, has to go through the whole thing with an eye for changes (condense this, expand that, get rid of this altogether, that doesn't make sense), and it goes back to the writer for rewrites.

It's a process people. Just because he turned in his draft in May doesn't mean you get the book in the store by October. While I suspect this time around the process will be shorter than it was for the first book, the turnaround time on accepted manuscripts is always months and frequently years. A friend of mine just sold his first book a few weeks ago and it's due to be released in spring 2011. I'm sure Pat's book will be turned around much more quickly than that, but you've really been kidding yourselves if you thought the draft submitted in May would produce a book for you to purchase by mid-October. My guess is we're looking at next spring. If it's any earlier than that, then be happy!

But that's a complete and total guess.

October 12, 2009 4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eean (ian)

October 12, 2009 7:41 PM  
Blogger Slappy Jones said...

Very cool and a lot awesome.

My husband has a D&D dwarf named Brock Digsby, so I could totally see that being a problem. (He's a one-armed porn star.)

Anyway, can't wait to donate the little money I have for a good cause.

October 13, 2009 12:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oot is looking very spiffy in his onesie. :0)

And i missed the last post and until i went back and read it thought you were auctioning off the naming rights to your son. :-D I was fairly sure it wasn't reallyt he case but i had to check.

WV: weade- what elmer fudd does to books.

October 13, 2009 4:02 AM  
Anonymous Illyria said...

LOL yeah I had to go back and read what was going on because I thought we were naming your son as well! LOL. Then I thought... what is better than Oot? Not much. My pick is Illyria of course.

October 13, 2009 7:16 AM  
Blogger Kathleen said...

Ooooh more motivation to find employment...other than rent/food/clothing!

October 13, 2009 10:59 AM  
Blogger Vulpes Fulva said...

PAT!
You are tantalizingly mine, aren't you.

I have a name for you.

Monday will be a good day.

October 13, 2009 1:26 PM  
Blogger Jesus said...

My name still takes the cake... Birth name: Evangelius Robertum Wood

My Parents smoked ALOT of the good shit......

October 13, 2009 9:06 PM  
Anonymous Nathan said...

Pat,

Strangely enough, you already put my name (Nathan) in your first book. So, thanks! ;)

I just finished The Name of the Wind, though I wish I hadn't. I want more! I hunger for more!

I enjoyed this book so much that I'm now experiencing withdrawls and have started biting my nails again. When will you be releasing book two!?

It is my belief that your name will one day be mentioned alongside greats such as Lewis, Tolkien, R.R., Farland, Jordan, and that Harry Potter chick.

Keep up the good work!

~ Nathan

October 13, 2009 11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are looking for names, you can always use website generators that generate mythical names. Ex: Say you type in "elvish names on yahoo.com and you choose on of the websites that popup. There are also websites that have lists of wierd and unusual names. Course you can mix it up too.

Now to put in my two scents:
If you had any ideas what so ever, you should at least look up ancient names on the internet or in a library. "Ancient Names" wont be enough in a library. "Ancient Civilizations of Europe," or something like that of the sort, might be a bit useful.

However if you want my oppinion, I like these names:
Kaveak (male)
Cebren (male)

Of course everyone wants there name in a book. Thats why I havent given mine

Choose wisely.

October 14, 2009 8:39 PM  
Anonymous MOQS said...

I must say im kinda upset...i was poor about a year ago, i mean dead broke, but iv been working 15 hour days for a year now and havent had one good thing to spend my money on untillnow.....AND NOW I CANT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING MONEY!!!!! CURSE YOU GOOD MAN PAT...

October 14, 2009 11:08 PM  
Anonymous Dan Heffron said...

I am just stunned that my name was in the first book. When I read 'You didn't do something stupid like go to the Heffron, did you?" (I forget the exact quote, but I definitely got the name right)...I had to read it three times to figure out if I had fallen asleep and was dreaming while I was reading. That was one of the coolest things I'd ever read!

October 16, 2009 4:09 PM  
Blogger Nicole said...

how about:
Nenia (female)
Nemian (male)

Just the first thought that came to my head.

October 18, 2009 10:19 AM  
Blogger sean said...

My son Danny died in June. He loved your books, especially the ones you sent to City of Hope. I think you should use the name Vladimir or Bazaliel in his honor, since he liked both of those family names. When are you coming to San Diego so we can meet you? D wanted so much to thank you in person. We'll just have to do it for him!We miss him every day. Thanks for being a great guy! Carol

October 18, 2009 7:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just use a name from japanese anime or something..some of them sounds cool

Index Librorum Prohibitorum
Strelka
Nora Arlent
Alleyne
Sanya T.Litvark

October 19, 2009 5:25 AM  
Blogger Kinney said...

So what happens if you are stupid and in your haste to give money to a good cause you forget to fill out your paypal donation with the necessary raffle information? Is there any way to connect the two? I just did this and would really like to be entered in the raffle. Any help would be amazingly appreciated.

October 23, 2009 10:13 AM  
Anonymous shaun said...

hey pat just loved your book read it a while back can't wait for the next one. i have a few ideas knocking around for books myself,they just seem to pop into my head when i'm not expecting it is this the same for you before you started to write? would love to write something if it ends up being half as good as yours i'd be a happy guy! thanx

October 25, 2009 9:54 PM  
Blogger Mike said...

Awesome first book Pat, loved every second of it and I eagerly await the second with bated breath.

Just thought id throw a couple of names in too mix it up a bit. My girlfriend's name is Ánna but prononced Auna (she is Irish) and her cousin is Áunia, well prononced that and I have no idea how its spelt. These funny ol Irish spellings and all. Well I really hope your well Pat, and you and your family take care.

Mike & Ánna - Devon, England.

October 29, 2009 7:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Pat!
Just wanted to say Thank you for giving us a great book to read! I've been a bookseller for 15 years and I know that contrary to public belief, it takes a lot of time to write an awesome book AND get it published. Book 2 will be done when its done! And in the meantime I can read The Name of the Wind again and again!:)

November 7, 2009 2:18 AM  

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